LHUD Szeged customs and AVGAS stop
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LHUD Szeged |
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ICAO code | LHUD |
AFIS Signal | Szeged Info |
Frequency | 122,800 MHz |
AFTN: LHUDZTZX | LHUDZTZX |
ARP co-ordinates (16 runway threshold) | 4615 02,87N 02005 20,62E |
Altitude above sea level | 80 m (262 ft) |
Location | 5 km to the west from Szeged city center |
Runway (asphalt) | 16R / 34L ; 1185 m x 30 m |
Runway (grassy) | 16L / 34R ; 1177 m x 50 m (grass) |
Traffic area | 6000 m2 (grass) |
Fuel | AVGAS 100LL, JET-A1 Kerosene |
airports with AVGAS and facilities in Turkey
Our rally organization team member Turgut keeps amazing me.
He just drafted a full list of Turkish Airports with customs facilities and airports which sell Avgas. Interesting to know when you are flying out of Georgia on your way back to Western Europe
Reentry to Turkey could be made from Ordu_Giresun of from Samsun airports.
For refueling you can use Engiz or Sivrihisar airfields.
Turkish generosity
There’s some great news from Turkey ! Dr. Uner Bekoz of the Elba Aviation Institute expressly invites you, aviator participating at the Memorial Hans Gutmann Tourist rally to Georgia 2016 to come to Antalya and join the organized Fly In at the Antalya Karain Airfield. after you fly out of Georgia.
Here’s the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/elbahavacilik .
Antalya is the most peaceful and touristic site of Turkey, Antalya where you will taste the nature of history besides resting in utmost comfort.
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Generous invitation to visit Antalya |
Given the political situation in Turkey, you may ask yourself whether it is safe. That’s why I discussed today with Dr Uner Bekoz. He reassured me that the situation in Antalya is very safe. They are 500 km away from Ankara and there’s absolutely nothing to worry about.
You are expected to arrive on August 14th or 15th and a tourist program is organized accordingly by his organisation.
The following is offered to you entirely free of charge:
- Accommodation in a five star resort (2 persons per aircraft will receive a 3 day hotel stay breakfast included free of charge)
- All airfield service of parking, mashalling, health service etc
- A trip to historical site of Antalya (Perge, Aspendos and Side) and the Antalya Museum will also be free of charge , including shuttle buses including guides.
On the day of your arrival or the following day (according to our prearrangement) there is a “fly In night” at the airfield to make some fun. They have arranged live music !
And , especially interesting for you, they will serve Avgas and Jet A1, Oil and tires at normal fees.
We further learned they have a full group 3 mechanics to help with possible technical problems at your plane.
Important to know is further that the overall airfield as well as ALL aircrafts and the overall activity will be secured by professional personnel. There’s absolutely nothing to worry about.
This is a great and very generous offer from Elba Aviation Institute
If you are accepting this rally extension to Antalya, here’s what you need to do in the next couple of days
1. Please send an email to Dr. Uner Bekoz at Elba Havacılık elbahavacilik@gmail.com and copy us (info@georgia2016.eu) that you are accepting/refusing their offer
2. Indicate your call sign and the names of the pilots and passengers aboard.
3. Inform them when you likely expect to arrive.
As there is some logistical work involved for the team of Dr Uner Bekoz, we would like to invite you to send your answer (be it positive or negative) as soon as possible
From a practical point of view, when you fly out of Natakhari in Georgia, it is recommended to fly to Ordug Giresun airport for customs.After refueling at Engiz airport fly from there straight to Antalya, where some more AVGAS is waiting for you
Memorial Hans Gutmann Tourist rally to Georgia 2016 on facebook now
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Memorial Hans Gutmann tourist rally 2016 now on facebook |
news from the organisation team
The organisation team met twice last week in Luxembourg, here are the minutes and open action points
Nr
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Airport
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Item
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deadline
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Assigned to
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1
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Luxembourg
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Guido to contact Aviabel insurance by email to obtain Georgia insurance certificate for LX-AIX and LX-AIE
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Asap
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Guido
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2
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LHJK
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As we have a large group of pilots, some 14 planes, Peter to inform Jakabszállás in Hungary about our AVGAS requirements based upon the input of our participating pilots so that they can ensure to have enough AVGAS available
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asap
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Peter
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3
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LHJK
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Romain informed us that the Aerohotel team in Hungary informed him that customs on demand is not available at LHJK. It is advised to pilots to land at LHUD (Szeged) after leaving LHJK. There’s AVGAS at 700 forint, whereas in Bulgaria this will be way more expensive (3.5€/l?)
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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4
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LHJK
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No landing fees are due in LHJK
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5
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LHJK
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Mike and Artem are to distribute in LHJK a MTX sim card and toolbox, allowing to participating pilotys to have WIFI and 3G on board of their planes whilst flying to Georgia. There’s a good packet free of charge. They will have a sticker available to put on the planes willing to benefit from this as this is entirely sponsored by MTX Connect
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Asap
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Artem/Mike
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6
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LBSF
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Sofia needs to ask for group handling for all planes except Turkish ones. Turgut to introduce his Bulgarian contact Rosen to Peter for this purpose
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Asap
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Peter Turgut
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7
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LBSF
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Several planes will skip fuel stop in LBSF, they will fly directly to Turkey
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8
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LBSF
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Sofia airport: in order to avoid important handling costs, it is recommended to insert “technical handling-fuel stop” in your flight plan (part 18). It seems that handling costs can be waived. Turgut will try to get confirmation of his Bulgarian contact Rosen.
Also to check on Avgas in Sofia
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asap
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Turgut
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9
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LBSF
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Bulgarian authorities may sometimes be harsh, Peter to contact Rosen in Bulgaria in order to check what is needed for smooth handling
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asap
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Peter
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10
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LBSF
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If problems should arise with Avgas in Sofia, pilots can always land in LTBU – Corlu in Turkey. Avgas and customs are possible, but handling could be expensive – please insert “technical handling-fuel stop” in your flight plan (part 18). It seems that handling costs can be lowered or waived
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info
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All pilots
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11
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Turkey
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Turgut to prepare sample flight plans for flights to, within and from Turkey, which will be distributed amongst the participants
o Sofia – Bursa
o Bursa- Engiz airfield
o Engiz – Batumi
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asap
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Turgut
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12
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Turkey
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Fuel in Turkey is to be paid in cash in Euros or Turkish currency. Small amounts of cash needed (no 200€ or 500€ bills)
No credit cards accepted. To communicate to all pilots.
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July 25
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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13
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Turkey
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Every plane needs to bring along at least one AOPA membership card in order to benefit from lowered handling fees in both Bursa Yenesehir and Engiz airport. This is compulsary
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August 3
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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14
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Turkey
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A flight plan is required for every flight within Turkey
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15
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Turkey
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Turgut to provide some input with regards to weather briefing in Turkey
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Asap
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Turgut
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16
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Turkey
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At LTBR there’s some technical support available, at Engiz airport all technical support is available.
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17
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LTBR
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Bursa-Yenisehir: It is possible we get a dinner offered by the municipality of Bursa whilst our landing on August 6 (unconfirmed at this stage)
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Turgut
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18
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LTBR
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Bursa-Yenisehir: as the two hotels we suggested in the Bursa-Yenisehir area are quite far from each other (40 min drive) and given that we might have an evening dinner offered by the municipality, it is suggested to all participants to only make reservations in the Montania Special Class Hotel***** at Mudanya, Bursa. It is set in a 165-year-old train station on the seafront of Mudanya, Montania Special Class Hotel and awarded as the The Middle East’s Best Classic Boutique Hotel by World Boutique Hotel Awards, combines modern amenities with a historical atmosphere. The places is somewhat special as it is the train station where the World war 1 peace treaty was signed. So, here’s the booking link http://goo.gl/ZMRn4p . If still possible, please cancel your reservation at Hotel Zeytin Bahcesi*** (Olive garden) at Iznik, Bursa.
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asap
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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19
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LTBR
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Turgut will join crew of LX-AVS at LTBR
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August 6
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20
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LTBR
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AVGAS in Turkey: the general rule is that AVGAS is available in Western Turkey and MOGAS in Eastern Turkey. Team member Turgut will draft a list which we will publish on our blog which Turkish airfield having AVGAS available, where we could eventually land
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asap
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Turgut
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21
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LTBR
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A demand was received from Hilmi of Istanbul flying club, in order to take along some spare parts. To be forwarded individually
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Asap
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Peter
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22
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LTBR
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Piper Saratoga D-ENRG Peter Antony to follow different timing/routing to Georgia.
· August 7th.
o LOAV dep 12.00 loc, arr. Belgrade LYBE 14.00 loc for fuel stop
o LYBE dep 15.00 loc 4 h fligt + 1 h time difference arr. LTBR 20.00 h loc time
Peter S. arranged with Hilmi Incircioglu of Istanbul aviation club that their tanker will stay one day longer in order to serve 300 liter of AVGAS to D-ENRG of Peter Antony
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asap
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Peter
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23
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ZZZZ
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Engiz airfield: standard circuit. Details of this airfield including aerial views and frequencies have been posted earlier on the blog
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24
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ZZZZ
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Draft list with indicated fuel demands at Engiz airport, so that Turgut can ensure there’s enough AVGAS available
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Asap
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Peter/Turgut
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25
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ZZZZ
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Engiz airfield: flight plan needs to be closed by calling to Samsun airport, this is compulsory
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26
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ZZZZ
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Engiz airfield: this airfield is not on listed on the Skydemon map for Turkey. Guido to contact Skydemon owner to fix this
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Asap
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Guido
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27
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LTCB
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Landing at Ordu Giresun is necessary for customs. This is a sea airport –spectacular views to be expected. There is no AVGAS at Ordu Giresun.
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28
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Georgia
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Mike Kornev in contact with Levan Karanadze of Georgian civil aviation authority in order to check whether a simplified paper filing is possible
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18 July
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Mike
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29
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Georgia
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Mike Kornev to send out whitepaper to participating pilots with the papers which need to be submitted to Georgian authorities prior to July 25th (soft deadline).
Passing the Georgian border and customs in Batumi Int’l Airports without any special procedures but all pilots need to send the documents hereunder in an individual email directly to Central Dispatching Service of Georgia cds@gcaa.ge before July 25th (to have some time in case of questions). This is a requirement of Central Dispatching Service to clear border crossing and flights inside Georgia.
The following documents needs to be bundled in a PDF and sent together with a cover letter to
1. Certificate of registration of civil aircraft
2. Certificate of airworthiness
3. Appendix of certificate of airworthiness N1
4. Insurance policy for:
a. The crew
b. Passengers
c. Luggage
d. Third persons
5. Pilot(s) licenses
6. Pilot(s) medical certificates
The insurance for airplane must specifically mention that it is valid in Georgia.
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19 July
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Mike
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30
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Georgia
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A flight plan is required for every flight within Georgia
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31
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Georgia
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Plan B Artem informs that there’s an additional 5 tons of expired fuel available in Georgia in case of emergency. This comes from civil military services.
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32
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Georgia
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Three Belgian planes are expected to join us in Batumi (Karel Vranken group) which the end destination of their own fly-out
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August 7
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33
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Georgia
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removed
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34
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Georgia
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Mike will continue to update the navigation part of the georgia2016.eu website. He’ll add the approach charts which are to be delivered by Vanilla Sky for Natkahari and Batumi. He’ll try to be as complete as possible.
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Asap
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Mike
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35
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Georgia
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Pilots are recommended to purchase a road map of Georgia as backup
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Asap
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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36
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Georgia
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All fuel in Georgia is delivered in barrels, a manual fuel pomp is required in both Batumi and Natakhari. It has to be arranged that Vanilla Sky ensures to have a manual fuel pomp at both locations
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Asap
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Artem
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37
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Georgia
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There’s a total of 4400 liter AVGAS available for our pilots in Georgia of which 3560 liter is prepaid by our pilots. As subscriptions are closed, fuel requirements of prepaid AVGAS in both Natakhari (2620l AVGAS) and Batumi (940l AVGAS) per plane are now firmly known. We’ll reconfirm in a proper writing the ordered AVGAS per plane at both Batumi and Natkahari locations to Vanilla Sky / Serviceair so they arrange their distribution management.
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Asap
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Peter
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38
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Georgia
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There is some 840 liters of AVGAS left for pilots willing to fly within Georgia. This is distributed on a first come, first served basis and needs to be paid to Vanilla Sky/Service Air. We’ll communicate this policy in a letter to Vanilla Sky management
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Asap
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Peter
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39
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Georgia
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We learned that Georgia requires that the insurance papers of the plane specifically mention that Georgia is covered. This can be a showstopper for pilots who fail to deliver this.
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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40
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Georgia
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The tourist program of Georgia is accepted as such. A subscription form needs to be drafted and send out to all pilots. Order intake and management needs to be ensured by Vanilla Sky
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Asap
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Artem/Guido
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41
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Georgia
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Pilots shall receive receipts for the fuel they buy in Georgia from Vanilla Sky. Artem to discuss how this will work out related to the final bill every pilot will receive from Vanilla Sky
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Artem
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42
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UGSB
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Both our suggested hotels in Batumi are not too far from each other. Arrange for dinner location at sea shore in Batumi.
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30 July
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Vanilla Sky
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43
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UGSB
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To arrange with Vanilla Sky in order to ensure a set of barrels for the late arrival of some planes is scheduled in Batumi together with a hand help pump
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Asap
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Artem
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44
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UGSB
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Artem agreed with Vanilla Sky that individual handling fees in Batumi are invoiced by Batumi airport to Vanilla Sky, who will re-invoice it at their turn to the individual plane owners. Artem to clarify with Vanilla Sky what the scheduled handling fees are in Batumi.
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Asap
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Artem
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45
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UGSB
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Piper Saratoga D-ENRG Peter Antony to follow different timing/routing to Georgia.
· August 8th
o LTBR dep 10.00 loc 4,5 h flight + 1 h time difference arr Batumi UGSB 15.30 loc
o Planning to arrive in UGSA Natakhari on late afternoon
Peter to arrange with Vanilla Sky that 60 liter AVGAS in cherry cans is left behind at Batumi airfield for D-ENRG
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Asap
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Peter
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46
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UGSA
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A welcome party is organized at Natakhari on August 8 in the evening as part of the tourist program which Vanilla Sky has been putting together
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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47
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UGSA
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A car needs to be rented for the organization team in Natakhari to ensure additional flexibility
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Asap
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Mike Kornev
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48
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Antalya
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A generous offer has been received by the municipality of Antalya, offering our pilots on their way back to Western Europe 3 nights stayover in a 5 star resort plus a tourist program.
A proper invitation should be send out to our participating pilots
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Asap
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Peter
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49
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Antalya
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A generous offer has been received by the municipality of Antalya, offering our pilots on their way back to Western Europe 3 nights stayover in a 5 star resort plus a tourist program.
The website needs to be adjusted in order to show this as a tour extension
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Asap
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Mike
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50
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Antalya
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A generous offer has been received by the municipality of Antalya, offering our pilots on their way back to Western Europe 3 nights stayover in a 5 star resort plus a tourist program.
Participating pilots should confirm to Turgut by email whether they will participate to this tourist program
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Asap
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Every individual pilot assisting at the rally
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51
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general
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Flight plans can be submitted 5 days in advance only, several pilots will use DFS
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52
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General
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Oil reserve: pilots are recommended to take extra oil with them throughout the rally as it might not be obvious to find appropriate oil on our road to Georgia
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Rally departure
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All pilots
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Avgas in LTBR (Bursa Yenisehir, Turkey)
We have been in touch with Hilmi Incircioglu of the Instanbul Aviation club and he confirmed the availability of AVGAS @LTBR. This is an important stop for our 14 planes on their way to Georgia.
He is planning to have their tanker ready with some 2500 lt of AVGAS both for our 13 planes arriving on August 6 as a contingency and also to refuel the aircraft of Peter Antony (D-ENRG) arriving on August 7th with 300 additional lt of AVGAS.
The price of Avgas will be 2.65 EUR per liter.
The handling costs are 35 eur per aircraft, provided at least one of the occupants of the aircraft presents a valid AOPA card. Othervise the handling cost will be 70eur per aircraft.
Only cash is accepted as payment, either in Turkish Liras or Euros.
We can either refuel on the 6th August in the afternoon when we arrive or on the 7th in the morning.
They suggest however to refuel all aircrafts on 6th in the afternoon as there will be some spare time while we will be waiting for all the aircraft to arrive before we head to Bursa to our hotels. By doing so no time will be lost before the departure on 7th morning.
So it has also been formally confirmed that Peter Anthony (D-ENRG) will also be able to get 300 lt of AVGAS either at the time of his arrival 7th August evening or the following morning before he departs. They will keep the tanker @Yenişehir for him one more day, before it heads back to their Sabiha Gokcen base.
Fully booked
Yesterday, we met with the organisation team and analysed the subscriptions and payments received..
We have now 14 planes participating at the rally to Georgia with some 36 people aboard. We further have 7 persons coming over with regular airlines. In total, a group of 43 persons
With having only a limited availability of AVGAS, we decided to close the subscriptions for this year’s edition. We’re so sorry, but we’re fully booked.
Georgia pictures
With our rally to Georgia being very close now, here are some great new pictures about our destination (courtesy of the friendly Georgian national tourist office) in case you’re planning to extend you stay. It looks gorgeous in every way.
Black sea |
European Caucasus |
Abanoebi |
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Ananoeri |
Bambis Rigi |
Batumi late night view |
Batumi |
Borjomi water, a taste I never will forget |
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Davit Gareja |
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ganaxlebuli kutaisis center |
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Gelati |
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Gergeti |
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Gori |
Gudauri |
in the spring of 2017, lets go for ski in Gudauri |
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Ikalto, Kakheti |
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Telavi |
Kazbegi |
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different Kazbegi view |
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Lamaria, svaneti |
Mtskheta |
Mtskheta 1 |
Mtskheta 2 |
Mtskheta 3 |
Mtskheta 4 |
Mtskheta 5 |
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mxeta da sveticxoveli |
Narikala |
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Opera |
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PIACA_BATUMI |
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sataplia caves |
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sighnaghi |
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more sighnaghi |
Svaneti |
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svetitskhoveli shignidan |
Capital city Tbilisi |
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tsinandali |
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ushba, svaneti |
Update from the organisation team
We have been processing the subscriptions received for the upcoming Memorial Hans Gutmann Rally 2016. We have now 13 planes participating with the rally, which is a big success as we’re now fully booked. Besides, we have some pilots participating in the rally who’s spouses and children are coming over by regular airline to Georgia. All together, we have as per today 33 pilots and passengers and 7 additional persons, totaling 40. Quite a big group. There’s a group of three other planes (from Belgium), who have planned to meet us in Batumi for the evening dinner. What makes this group so interesting is that it consists of pilots coming from various European countries. We have Italians, English, German, Lithuanian, Austrian and Luxembourg based pilots in our planes.
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scenic views of the southern Caucasus in Georgia, a new general aviation destination |
They are offering the following free of charge :
– 3 Nights stay at 5 star hotels,
– Free entry to Antalya museums,
– Free entry to Side and Aspendos antique cities,
– All airport services free of charge.
Turgut contact mentioned there will be party with live music, animations, and dinner on August 15th. Antalya is a touristic city, 350 NM south of Samsun, on the Mediterranean coast.